League with different format each game
Question asked by Dennis - May 5 at 5:24 PM
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My 4 person summer league is using a different format each game. I was wondering if these settings can be automatically set in BLS-2018.
 
1st game - Standard team game 
2nd game - Doubles where low average is paired with high average then middle two averages are paired together. 1 point each doubles match
3rd game - Singles matches. 1 point per match
 
The lineups are manually set each night by each team by averages. Low, High, 2nd high, 3rd high. This is done for doubles pairings. Last years secretary is no longer a part of the league and we are thinking she manually calculated the doubles and singles points each night. 

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This is definitely beyond the scope of BLS, even the lineup order. You would do best to have BLS maintain the lineup order week to week, and in this case, advance to the following week before manually adjusting the lineup order and printing recaps. I believe that you'd have to do manual calculation just like your former secretary did.
 
It's nice seeing creative league formats in use, but it's not always possible to implement every scheme in a software program. In Rules (under the Setup menu) you probably should set the Team Points to be zero for every win, and then use overrides. BLS probably could do game one correctly, but it would attempt to do games two and three the same way, so you may be better off overriding everything on top of zero points.
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Dean Skoog Replied
I like this creative idea. I haven't look at the program, but I'm wondering if instead one league could this be change to three leagues in one night? Just off top my head the doubles would be the hard one to setup. If you could setup and want to give individual point leader you'll do manually
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I have actually written and re-written (from scratch) several thoughts based on Dean's suggestion, as I thought out several scenarios, played them out, and re-considered my thoughts.
 
It would probably be easiest to set up BLS as a match-point league (basically, set up for game 3), but also award one point for team wood each game). However, all match points would be manually ignored in game 1 (just the team total, I presume), and the match points over-ridden out. Game 3, match points would be included, but the team totals appear to be ignored. Game 2 however would require manual match points because I can't see any way of BLS calculating points using the sum of the first two bowlers being the first point, and the sum of the last two bowlers, a second point, for any game or league, so again they'd have to be done manually.
 
Based on this, it seems as though there are 7 points up for grabs each week. 1 point for game one, 2 for game two, and 4 for game three. A total wood for the night point wasn't mentioned but could be added easily enough.
 
On such a league, for recaps I would strongly suggest double-spacing bowler names and perhaps manually marking up game two so as to provide a space where the doubles totals could be calculated and written, so it can be shown where the points fall.
 
I had actually written a bit about the concept of three individual "Leagues," together with a "Master League" that would just have bowler scores for average purposes to manually override averages for the other three one-game leagues, and overall points manually compiled from the other three. But the secretary doing all of that would have to override in four locations rather than just one. I just don't see a return on the investment of the time needed to accomplish all of that.
 
Still, I again admire the concept of creative leagues, and welcome Dean's input. It definitely merited a thumbs-up. This isn't meant to put him down in any way...just to give an additional look at that approach.
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Dennis Replied
Thank you for the responses. Our league is called 10 Point Classic. Game 1 is a regular team game worth 1 point. Game 2, doubles worth 2 points for the match and 1 point for team game (3 points total). Game 3, singles matches 1 point each (4 points) plus 1 point for team game (5 points total). Then 1 point for total team pins for the night. It's a neat concept for a summer league but I would hate to have to do manual overrides every week for a fall league.
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It is a very fun idea for a summer league. Seems like a little bit of manual work also. The best idea I can think of is to enter all the scores into bls then use an export to excel and use either excel calculations or access database to calculate points. But you could set up the excel file as a template with formulas and just do a copy and paste each week to get that week's results. So, it would just be manually intense the first time.
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The travel leagues in Grand Rapids have this same format in the summer.  Weber format. 
Game 1:  Team 1pt total
Game 2:  Doubles 2pts possible
Game 3:  Singles 4 pts possible
First team to 4 wins the night and each week is either 1 point or 0 for standing purposes.
 
Team on the left lane has to put their order down first, then the right lane can match up who they want to bowl who the last 2 games.
 
I don't bowl in it regularly anymore but the secretary does update the standings using BLS (don't look at the year...)  :)  
 

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